It is a collection of undifferentiated cells (8-10 cells at 72 hrs, whereas a fetus is the stage of development after 9 weeks and has a beating heart) that once transferred into the uterus *may* result in implantation & a positive pregnancy test by two weeks post transfer. Pregnancy is not guaranteed, nor is a healthy baby at the end of the process. Everyone working in the field desires to see pregnancy & healthy babies as the result, and are very cognizant of the cost, including emotional costs. These “lawmakers “ have not taken into account where this leaves those fertilized embryos, who pays for the extended storage & what legal & criminal liability medical staff & patients may face while this plays out in the courts.
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If it's not a baby, what do. you think it is, and why do you support experimenting with, and developing and creating in labs for personal profit, living beings that you aren't sure the worth of? How can your conscience be satisfied when experimentation is going on against beings that could well have vast moral value? After all, you don't seem to know quite what to make of these embryos, nor do any of the Pro-Death people I've spoken to.
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Something you learn in basic biology classes, and that is continually agreed upon by later scientists: an embryo used in lab experimentation is usually 4-5 days after conception, with a cell count of 100-150, and absolutely no functional nervous system or feeling at all. It is not traditionally “human” in any sense of the word that would relate it directly to you. At that point, it’s basically just unique stem cells without a being that’s created from it. The embryo couldn’t be an actual fetus at any point, let alone a baby, so it’s nerves and feeling will… Read more
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What moral worth do you think it has? That's the main question I have for you. Do you think it's more valuable than a clod of Dirt?
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Until it’s reached actually growth as a fetus, it’s moral value is none, since the embryo is quite literally a clump of cells at that point in time, it was already doomed to never become a child, it’s nerves will never connect, and experimentation on it will very likely alter the DNA away from the unique combination it had before while contributing vastly to science as a whole. I see no moral value in the tiniest clump of embryonic cells that will not ever reach the fetal stage.
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Until it’s reached actually growth as a fetus, it’s moral value is none
Alright, so you just said that human embryos that can turn into whole persons have the same moral worth as a clod of cow dung. You don't even think it has the moral worth of a bird, or something – dung. What a horrible, inhuman thing to say.
the embryo is quite literally a clump of cells
So are we! Do you realise how stupid that argument is? Every living thing on the face of this EARTH is a "clump of cells"! YOU AND ME ARE CLUMPS OF CELLS! There might be more cells in you and me than in an… Read more
