Rape and incest are crimes that should be punished, but it is the perpetrator that should be punished, not the child, who is another victim. Even if it means higher rates of medical issues, the rationale of aborting these children results in a form of eugenics that can justify a genocide against the disabled, as seen with increased abortions on infants with Down syndrome
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@BDKWX5S1mo1MO
It is entirely the victims choice whether they decide to carry the fetus to full term or not. They have the right to CHOOSE whether they are mentally and physically capable of carrying the pregnancy to full term and caring for the child afterwards. There could be severe trauma tied to the pregnancy that could result in the parent of the child being unable to properly care for the child and being unable to properly heal from said trauma. Rape and incest are absolutely crimes that should be punished, rape especially should be punished way more than it currently is, but forcing the victim to car… Read more
@BC2W59B1mo1MO
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@BDKRHQY 1mo1MO
punishing the perpetrator and protecting the victim are both important. But you shouldn't force someone to continue with a pregnancy caused by rape or incest, which can add more physical and psychological trauma to the victim. allowing abortion in these cases is not the same as supporting eugenics, bc the decision is based on the survivors bodily autonomy and circumstances.
@BDMCN771mo1MO
Abortion rights are mainly about bodily autonomy and personal choice, not eugenics. For victims of rape or incest, forcing someone to continue a pregnancy can add more trauma from a crime they did not choose. Supporters of abortion rights argue that the government should not force a person to go through pregnancy against their will. They also argue that individual abortion decisions are different from government-controlled eugenics policies.
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@BDNXLYC1mo1MO
If a girl is raped and she is put in the position to either abort or keep the child, that is her decision as the ultimate victim in the situation. The unborn child is not a victim, it is not even alive yet, we cannot prioritize that life when the life of the actual living victim could be in danger if she is not in the position to properly care or give birth to the child. Moreover, aborting infants with disabilities is not an attempt to form eugenics, deciding to abort a child with disabilities requires a lot of consideration of one's individual resources and abilities. Knowingly bringing a child with disabilities into the world, knowing that you will not be able to willingly face the adversities that come with it, is not the best choice for both the mother and the child.
@BDNBSR41mo1MO
Ultimately, there is no situation in which the government should be making deeply personal medical decisions for individuals. Pregnancy involves complex circumstances that are best evaluated by the pregnant person and their doctor, not lawmakers.
The language in this argument is also misleading. Abortions are not performed on infants, and prenatal diagnoses are often based on probabilities and medical judgment rather than absolute certainty.
If the government is going to require people to carry pregnancies to term, it should also ensure that both parents are legally and financially responsible… Read more
@BDKQL771mo1MO
Abortion is not punishment to a fetus. It can be argued it’s punishment for the mother, because abortions are difficult emotionally and physically. But it would also be punishment for a woman to carry and deliver her assailants baby, if she doesn’t want to. No human should be forced to do something with their body if they don’t want to.
@BDLSH5G 1mo1MO
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@BDKF5571mo1MO
The eugenics argument doesn't hold up because not all children conceived by rape are aborted, nor do all women who are pregnant from rape wish to abort the child.
Most importantly, the right to bodily autonomy is the bedrock of individual humanity. A woman's right to bodily autonomy should not be infringed upon, under any circumstances.
@BDN8S98 1mo1MO
I believe that this whole take on "making the child another victim" is insane. We could use that same argument to justify forcing a child to live out their life fully knowing that they are a direct result of a rape or an incest case. Would this not also make them a victim? The child would have to relive that fact every day, in school, at home, etc, but the mother (the actual victim of rape or incest) would also have to face that same fact every day. Not only would the child's mental health be absolutely destroyed. But imagine the mother's. The worst event of her life has… Read more
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@BDL7KYV1mo1MO
Rape and incest are disgusting things that could happen to anyone, not just women. A child should not have to suffer the disabilities, illnesses or even death in labor due to something that was out of the victims control. Any baby that would be coming out of rape or incest should be aborted or kept at the victims choice. This is the problem that no one minds their business it should be up to the woman to decide to keep the baby or not, even if she does and the baby comes out sick they should have something covered to prevent payment for something out of the mothers control. All in all it is up to women specifically the one who realized they are pregnant to decide what they will like to do end of discussion
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