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Donald Trump wanted to pull the United States out of NATO during his first term, but was repeatedly talked out of it by senior administration officials. For a possible second term in the White House, the 2024 Republican presidential frontrunner is already discussing how he could actually get it done, if his demands aren’t met by NATO. He and his policy-wonk allies are also gaming out how he could dramatically wind down American involvement to merely a “standby” position in NATO, in Trump’s own words.
When the former president has privately discussed the United States’ role in the transatlantic military alliance this year, Trump has made clear that he doesn’t want the upper ranks of a second administration to be staffed by “NATO lovers,” according to two sources who’ve heard him make such comments. The ex-president has made these kinds of jabs at the longstanding alliance during conversations related to the ongoing Russian war in Ukraine.
Trump, the sources say, has continued to express an openness to pulling the U.S. out of NATO altogether. However, Trump has suggested that this could be averted if the alliance — which Trump once famously called “obsolete” — gives in to his newest demands. This would include his desires for non-American members to further and steeply increase their defense spending, and for a reevaluation of the bedrock principle that an attack on one member is tantamount to an attack on all.
@DejectedBureaucr4tDemocrat6mos6MO
It would seem some bad actors in our world want WWIII.
While Putin does his best to destabilize the Middle East. Trump will do his best to destabilize the entire West.
NATO is the only thing that has kept the West safe from invasion since it’s implementation in 1949.
It has been the main thing that has kept pretty much every country in Europe from having a substantial nuclear stockpile. It has actually been highly beneficial to the United States as it keeps Europe relatively open to us economically. Without it things go bad fast.
@DejectedBureaucr4tDemocrat6mos6MO
I know very little I just have an interesting contact who tells me things like China overstated their working age population by 100,000,000 so the demographic crisis has already started meaning knock on effect on the global economy & so also less keen to sub junior partner Putin.
Net beneficiary of all this is China. For the time being anyway.
@DejectedBureaucr4tDemocrat6mos6MO
They sure are. It's been claimed they're moving away from antagonistic Wolf Warrior to something more diplomatic and professional.
They have come somewhat near huge uprising at times the last year or two with previously unheard of mass protests too.
@VibrantXerusLibertarian6mos6MO
This is the Foundations of Geopolitics as written by Alesksandr Dugin. Very Putin to troll NATO by following a global strategy manual available as a book to buy. My condolences to Aleksandr Dugin after his almost certainly innocent daughter was murdered by a car bomb inside Moscow.
@BrightJudicialGreen6mos6MO
She was not innocent. Perhaps not the intended target, but not innocent.
@FederalistWaspLibertarian6mos6MO
It seems there is a coterie of "nuke the deep state," "withdraw into fortress America" unitary executive types all planning to be the last voice in Trump's ear on a wide variety of issues, thus resurrecting that awful thought, what if there was a competent Trump?
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