And I offered a different perspective. Is that not allowed...?
Right, that's the point: you and I have fundamentally different interpretations of what "economic liberty" means, hence why I argued that it is not a good metric of determining a left or right ideology, since both sides can claim they believe in it and the other doesn't. It was a counter to your previous assertion that economic liberty is a right-wing value/belief. Obviously it is something else that is a determining factor...
I'm not an Anarcho-Capitalist
Yea I think I confused you with another similar user I often had discussions with months ago (which I may have also brought up in another post, so my apologies for the confusion if that wasn't actually you lol).
Regardless, we obviously disagree on nearly every position you listed; however, we can still switch out "anarcho-capitalist" with "libertarian-capitalist" in my previous argument and the point still stands (although I understand the frustration of someone misclassifying your ideology lol).
Did I ever say that right and left was a clear-cut issue of liberty vs authoritarianism? No, I didn't.
Right, I never said you did, but you did say: "Right-wing people support economic liberty but are in general more willing to see the government spy on its civilians via unconstitutional surveillance, and some rightists subscribe to an interventionist foreign police. Left-wing people support economic tyranny with a massive regulatory bureaucracy but are in general less willing to see the government spy on its civilians, and originally many supported a policy of peace and non-intervention, though sadly this has wavered away in recent years, especially under the current warmongering occupant of the White House..." which is also wildly incorrect and is the thing I was arguing against.
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but you did say: "Right-wing people support economic liberty but are in general more willing to see the government spy on its civilians via unconstitutional surveillance, and some rightists subscribe to an interventionist foreign police. Left-wing people support economic tyranny with a massive regulatory bureaucracy but are in general less willing to see the government spy on its civilians, and originally many supported a policy of peace and non-intervention, though sadly this has wavered away in recent years, especially under the current warmongering occupant of the White House..."… Read more
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I have explained to you what I meant by "economic liberty" so there's no fallacy there, as I have defined my terms and you have defined yours. The true debate should be over why we believe economic liberty is what it is.
Yes that is quite literally the entire point I have been trying to make: our own interpretations of "economic liberty" are entirely subjective, and even largely antithetical to each other's, hence why it is not a useful term to claim categorizes left and right-wing ideological thought. We could both have logically sound reasons as to why we believ… Read more