““All the people in this thread who argue against legalization are citing religious tenants.””
Here's a more secular argument: marriage exists to promote a stable society. Married couples raise children, those who will enter society. Having children is, in principle impossible for a gay couple, and children not raised by a married mother and father do worse. Because a gay union cannot contribute to society in this way, it should not be considered a marriage. Marriage is a word that means something, and redefining it to "whatever people feel like" cheapens its value.
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"marriage exists to promote a stable society."
- Explain to me how getting rid of gay marriage leads to this "stable society" of yours instead of things like the stonewall riots.
"children not raised by a married mother and father do worse."
2. Give me any source that proves being raised by two men or two women results in circumstances such as being raised by two separated parents. Of course divorce leads to worse off children, I don't need that source, but gay couples do not have to have things like custody fights.
"redefining it to 'whatever people feel like' cheapens its value."
3. Explain to me how a lifelong romantical union cheapens the value of marriage.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 3mos3MO
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- Homosexuality is a psychological disorder, and giving mentally unstable people the same personal freedoms as everyone else obviously leads to instability.
- The comment you replied to never stated anything about gay couples being more likely to divorce.
- Marriage with a foundation of psychological disorder is only an illusion of that mental condition. The value of marriage is cheapened when it is taken out of its purpose to create a stable societal unit of family and reinterpreted as "lifelong romantical union," which blurs the line between marriage and general romantic love.
@BCTH7QD2mos2MO
Remember, the dunning kruger effect hits hardest on people like you, who believe because they have an online badge they know more than actual medical experts:
Here is a list of groups you believe you know more than--a list of groups that say homosexuality is not a disorder:
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
World Health Organization
American Medical Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Association of Social Workers
Royal College of Psychiatrists
American Counseling Association
Pan American Health Organization
United Nations
@wells_vw2mos2MO
- When in the modern day has homosexuality been considered a disorder in any way?
- Gay couples are more likely to divorce based on what evidence?
- This is assuming that there are instances where couples where one or both have a mental illness is invalid which is unnecessarily ignoring human emotions, which is one of, if not the, most important part of a marriage. And how would you define the line between marriage and "general romantic love"? Since you claim that calling same-sex marriage "blurring the lines" between the two, you would have a clear definition of the line?
@Helcovich-Emire2 days2D
If we expand the right to marry to f'aggots, then what about brothers? Because how is 2 brothers marrying any different from 2 unrelated men marrying? Neither can make children without artificial means. Homosexuality isn't a disorder; people can make bad choices without having an actual mental disorder. But bad choices deserve the appropriate consequences. If the people of a state oppose homosexuality, then the government should not be forced to legalize their right to marry as it would force the government to not serve the best interests if its people.
@ChristianGuidedConstitution 2mos2MO
@wells_vw2mos2MO
This both ignores surrogates, adoption, fostering and other forms of having a child and also creates a toxic mindset that the nuclear home is the only healthy way to raise a child. There have already been countless instances where non-straight couples have children through alternative means and raise them with proper values.