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Would you blame a car dealership for someone going on a vehicular rampage and killing dozens?

Instead of going after where the cars were made/sold, you would hold the maniac driving the car responsible.

It is almost like blaming the victims of a shooting because they “upset the gunman”. Always hold the individual responsible, no one else is holding the gun and pulling the trigger.

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 @9GCFZBXIndependent from California  agreed…3yrs3Y

Agree; individuals should be penalized for the choices they make. It is not the responsibility of the gun manufacturer if someone unjustly takes a life with a firearm they produce.

 @SereneRightWingGreenfrom Maine  disagreed…3yrs3Y

automobile manufacturers are held accountable for safety mechanisms in their cars. If a car's brakes fail due to a manufacturing defect and cause an accident, the manufacturer can be held liable.

In the same vein, should gun manufacturers not also have a responsibility to incorporate safety measures or checks that could potentially prevent a firearm from being misused, especially given the higher risk associated with these products?

 @6WP5FSYRepublican  from Washington  disagreed…3yrs3Y

“In the same vein, should gun manufacturers not also have a responsibility to incorporate safety measures or checks that could potentially prevent a firearm from being misused, especially given the higher risk associated with these products?”

The only way this counterargument makes sense is if the shooting was accidental due to a flaw in the firearms design. Mass shootings are committed by mass shooters intent on committing murder. There is no way for the manufacturer to know the shooter would have gotten their hands on the gun thus there is no legal liability.

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