No

Conspiracy and secrets within a government agency is possibly detrimental to the state because of historical examples like Julius Caesar, who was assassinated because of conspiracy within his government.

If all the CEOs stop working, barely anything will happen; if all the employees stop working, the economy will crash within hours.

I think the president should not be able to fire non-political federal civil servants without good reasoning.

could remove experienced professionals and risk turning gov agencies into political controlled institutions rather than stable expert based organizations.

The federal workforce makes up only about 1–2% of U.S. workers and is mostly career professionals in essential services like safety, healthcare, and disaster response. Surveys show many agencies are broadly trusted, and problems in government are usually linked to policies and systems—not a coordinated “Deep State.”

In the Executive Vesting Clause of the 2nd Amendment, it states that the president can remove officials of government agencies "for cause" if they show signs of neglect of duty or malfeasance in office. Firing officials because they don't align with your political beliefs is unacceptable.

You can see in different examples in the United States of America, that there are several instances where the government has eliminated agencies that could've been transformed into more useful agencies.

Firing a bunch of federal workers sounds good, but it can actually mess things up. There are over 2 million federal employees, and many of them do important jobs like safety, healthcare, and handling emergencies. When large cuts have happened, agencies struggled and even had to rehire people. Also, federal workers only make up a small part of government spending, so firing them doesn’t save that much money. It makes more sense to fix how things are run instead of just firing everyone.

It would lead to economic crashes, and the collapse of our governmental system as a whole. We are built on the promise of checks of power, we cannot allow an overreach like this to occur because if we do, where will the line be? When do we limit executive power if we allow this?

In order to respect the balance of power and democratic values, the U.S. President should not be given this power.

history has proven time and time again there can not be a leader with too much power or the government will collapse

Where are the checks? Why are we fighting Iran hearing they are obliterated one day to find out no they still are standing and able to shoot down our drones, what happened with that rescue we still don’t know. Not tax payer dollars on ballroom now they want taxpayer dollars, are we or are we not going to run out of gas this is important, why did Trump relieve sanctions on Irans and Russia why did he let Russian tankers go to Cuba if we have an embargo which is starving their people. There’s only so much you can ignore before it becomes willful.

turnover in government is the only way to represent the people as a whole as internal selection prevents such diversity

No single person outside of an agency should determine someone’s worth who actually earned that position. Should be a committee or board decision not someone removed.

Fire supervisors who have complaints or who have had the government pay settlements for their wrongdoing. Investate all complaints by a neutral third party, not affiliated with the agency and not politically motivated

Mass firings to fight the so-called ‘Deep State’ usually weaken government effectiveness rather than improve it, because history and research show that replacing experienced civil servants with political loyalists destroys institutional expertise, increases corruption and instability, and turns public institutions into partisan tools instead of accountable democratic systems.

Government employees are not allowed to have a union, but a judge must hear all termination requests, and there must be just cause for firing the employee.

over 2 million people work for the federal government, and most are nonpolitical workers like scientists, veterans hospital staff, safety inspectors, and investigators. mass firing them could slow disaster response, healthcare, and public services. studies also show countries with independent civil servants tend to have lower corruption because experts are less controlled by politics.

The Deep State seeks to make this country an administrative state and take away the constitutional republic we have.

If civil servants cause problems within the government, the president should be able to fire them with evidence provided.

Giving the president full authority to fire federal civil servants would not be ideal solely because they shouldn't have complete power in general and should have other viewpoints to base their decision off of.

Unelected officials are a threat to our representative democracy as they don't always have the best motives.

- If we claim we are a "Fair" state and country, I personally feel like everyone involved should pay the price.

You can’t realistically abolish your way out of every problem.,Structure is on paper; behavior comes from people.,Targeted staffing reforms are faster and more precise than abolition.

Unelected officials can hold long-term power without voter accountability, so reform or removal may be necessary to ensure government reflects elected leadership.

The federal workforce is overwhelmingly nonpolitical and performs highly specialized legal and operational work. Large-scale removals tend to disrupt essential services and reduce performance, while documented inefficiencies are more often structural than personnel-driven. Existing oversight bodies already identify waste and recommend targeted fixes, which is more effective than broad workforce purges.

I’d argue that simply saying “don’t fire the deep state” ignores how large and entrenched the federal bureaucracy actually is. The federal government employs over 2 million civilian workers and nearly 3 million total employees across hundreds of agencies, making it one of the largest workforces in the country . With that scale, even small levels of inefficiency or resistance to elected leadership can have massive nationwide impact. We’ve already seen that personnel changes matter, recent data shows the federal workforce shrank by about 10% (roughly 238,000 worker…  Read mores) in a single year, proving that real change can happen when you address staffing directly . On top of that, nearly half of federal employees have been in government for over a decade, meaning the culture is deeply embedded and doesn’t just disappear with agency reform . From this perspective, if you only restructure agencies but leave the same long-term bureaucrats in place, nothing fundamentally changes. That’s why I believe accountability has to include personnel—otherwise you’re just moving around a system that stays the same underneath.

The president should not be able to fire just any non-political federal civil servants because there are processes that are used to regulate these problems and funding to small bureaucracies are smaller than most people who are with this take think.

The president should no be allowed to just easily fire any non political federal civil servants because it's unjust and would allow good civil servants to be replaced with ones with less care about the people.

The removal of anyone from a federal position should require consultation and probable reason of necessity, otherwise the implied powers of the President may become greater than beneficially so.

You can see in different examples in the United States of America, that there are several instances where the government has eliminated agencies that could've been transformed into more useful agencies.

Especially with the current administration, the president has too much power to remove people just to support his policies. This tyranny is directly harming democracy and the bureaucracy that was established to keep this country safe from the rule of autocratic kings.

If you were to look at the aftereffects of doge, many of the agencies that were weakened were actually a general net positive.

1. The "Ghost Agency" Problem
Focusing on abolishing agencies is often a legislative dead end. In the U.S. system, most agencies are created by Acts of Congress, meaning a President cannot unilaterally "delete" them.

The Reality of 2025–2026: While the administration has signaled a desire to abolish the Department of Education, the agency still exists because a divided Congress has not passed the repeal.

The Strategic Shift: Instead of waiting for a "ghost agency" to be abolished, the administration has used Executive Order 14171 (reinstated in 2025) to recla…  Read moressify approximately 50,000 "policy-influencing" employees into the new Schedule Policy/Career (at-will status).

Agencies exist with purpose if its something we really don't need anymore the government would have gotten rid of it the only reasons an agency might seem useless is because Its not needed as of right now, or the employees are bad.

Federal workers are mostly nonpartisan servants that implement that laws that are passed by higher elected officials and are not part of a political group. Since the service system was designed after the 19th century, it was built to stabilize areas such as national security and public health. Studies show that the size of workforce in federal roles has been stable even as responsibilities increased. Therefore, increased firing of roles will lower the efficiency and ruin what is already there.

This gives the president to fire people who may not agree with his standings, removing non-bias from civil servant job positions. This is unconstitutional.

The unemployment rate consistently goes up every year. This would solve nothing regarding that, work ethic would more than likely drop. With a agency gone many would lose their jobs and potentially also add to them homelessness crisis.

Think about it would you rather more people working on something a little more useless and getting paid, or them relying on unemployment?

The deep state are unelected bureaucrats that taint the process based upon their political beliefs. This is beyond unacceptable. Public servants must be able to perform their jobs without any political bias or face termination as untrustworthy to be employed as a public servant.

history has proven time and time again there can not be a leader with too much power or the government will collapse.

Firing Deep States is useless as it does nothing to fix anything, if those agencies need to be used then we’d already have them.

This issue is not objective. Look socially: generalities are quite often incredibly detrimental to groups of people.

People would understand my counter because it is common sense and this has happened to many people before and it is not a very good sight to see