Because no matter what the motivations were behind it, taking people's money without their permission is, by definition, THEFT. The majority may vote for it, but what about that minority that opposes it? Shall they be oppressed and plundered from? On the one side you have free marketers like myself, who say, "Thou shalt not steal," and socialists like yourself, who say, "Thou shalt not steal expect by majority vote."
As for the government providing for the needs of the people, I've got news for you – the government can't give you anything it didn't first plunder from someone else, or more often than not, yourself. That stimulus check for ten thousand dollars you'd get in the mail? That's ten thousand dollars they coercively plundered from another human being with guns, and the threats of chains and imprisonment. That Social Security check? Money stolen from innocent people by the same intimidating and barbarian means. Aside from all taxation necessarily discouraging production, it is morally reprehensible, and you still have not given me a logical reason why it would NOT be theft. Why are you asking me "what other reason could there possibly" be that taxation is bad OTHER than that it's theft? That's like asking, "what other reason could murder be wrong other than that it kills another innocent human being." That's asking me to throw away the most powerful argument for my position, while you throw away nothing. We are like two vikings on a battle field of old – and you're asking me to throw down my sword while you retain your own. I've got two words for you: H–ll. No.
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Once again, taxation isn’t theft, you didn’t own that money before, the market gave it to you as a reward, more specifically, it was passed to you from your employer, who could adjust how much you’re given at anytime regardless. Pre-taxation income was decided from the beginning by your employer, the federal minimum wage (which you stand against), guarantees a basic living wage so that they have less power over your already-arbitrary income. The taxation afterwards is just another filter, yet another method of using income, something you weren’t liable to in the first… Read more
Not that I honestly expected you to, but you still haven't tried to explain how taxation is NOT theft, or, if you did, it was so incoherent I didn't notice it. Instead, you're denying the very existence of private property rights by claiming no one owns his income, it is what the market gave him as a reward. This conversation is pretty much over if we can't agree that private property is a fundamental right.
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Private property is a right that comes from the government itself, and as such, as you have already agreed to in the Social Contract when becoming a citizen, you are supposed to pay taxes. It’s in the contract, and as such, isn’t stealing. Those rights are enforced by the government, and can just as easily be taken away, therefore, your pre-tax income is not owned by you personally as much as changed hands. I’ve literally explained this, that very thing is WHY it’s theft, because you literally signed so that you agreed to it in the first place.
I never agreed to the social contract, which is a myth. Government has granted me zero of my rights, all came from God, otherwise they would be privileges, not rights. If you believe government is the final determiner of our rights, my condolences. I'm sorry you live in such dark and depressing delusions without faith in the God who grants us liberty, and I hope you will soon escape them.
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