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@BBFXMQ5 4mos4MO
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People should not have to take something if they do not want to, simple as that. Democrats always preach "my body, my choice," talking about abortion. Why does the same thing not apply here?
@BBGHN22 4mos4MO
Abortion and Vaccinations are inherently different. The reason why is that Abortion is tied to Personal Healthcare whereas Vaccinations are not only Personal but also Community Healthcare. Abortions affect the individual. Vaccinations not only protect the individual but also protects the Community through Herd Immunity. Refusing Vaccinations that have a long clinical history of being beneficial to the individual and community with little to no side effects is selfish and immoral (aside from those with religious exemptions).
@BBGMZ7W 4mos4MO
Vaccines are incredibly important for eradicating and preventing disease. However people should not be forced to take vaccines because it is fallible to human errors in both research and fabrication. I believe that letting people, through education and regulation come to their own decision on whether or whether not to take a vaccine.
@BBH6XNY4mos4MO
Citizens in a free country have a right to bodily autonomy, which includes the right to consume/not consume any substance; wether it be drugs both recreational or prescription. The government is directly attacking individual liberty be regulating/mandating the use of any food or drug. You have the same right to consume heroin as you do to not get the flu vaccine.
@BBND9ZM 4mos4MO
Vaccinations do not have enough testing and have not been proven to actually work for some things. They have many side effects and they just want you to take them to make money.
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@BC88CVY 3mos3MO
there should be no mandatory vaccines especially for vaccines that were not tested long enough, people have health issues, religious beliefs, etc that prevent them from getting those vaccines and in general have the right as to what goes into there body, people should not be robbed of there pay check because higher ups want to mandate a non nessesary vaccine
@BC8KNJXLibertarian3mos3MO
Nobody should be forced to take a vaccine if they don’t want to, however there should be more education and informed consent when it comes to vaccinations.
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@BBLQ432 4mos4MO
Nobody should be forced to have to take a vaccine. Its their body and their choice. If they were to get sick they should just stay home. They should only get the vaccine if they need it or want it.
@BBMKG52Republican4mos4MO
I agree with this because vaccinations can have life threatening side effects and this should not be forced into people.
@BBQVTHT4mos4MO
There is little to no evidence about those effects. There are some extreme cases in those with certain conditions such as those with immunodeficiencies —in those cases they should be able to be exempt— but by vaccinating yourself you are protecting those people whose bodies cannot handle it.
@BD2R38N 2mos2MO
“There is little to no evidence about those effects. There are some extreme cases in those with certain conditions such as those with immunodeficiencies”
If I may ask, how would you explain the multitude of reports about healthy athletes suffering sudden heart attacks in their 20's with autopsies revealing fibrous strings throughout their blood vessels and arteries?
This is not out of disagreement or to push anything, I'm just curious because i'd like to learn more about multiple views from different people
@BD2R38N 2mos2MO
Also, I can't edit this in post but i'd like to add onto the ending with "and how they defend their points with their knowledge about different subjects".
my main intention with this post and comment is to provide a counterarguement and ask for clarification on the other's arguement in response to the new information.
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@Desmond-HawkConstitution 4mos4MO
Who can guarantee that mandated vaccines will always provide more benefits than harm? Opening the mandate door is allowing the government to mandate any vaccine, regardless of effects.
It's not black and white. Depends on the virality and severity of the disease. In the case of Covid, when the whole world was under a pandemic and medical groups from across the globe were aligned - then it should be mandated.
@Desmond-HawkConstitution 4mos4MO
Agreed that it depends on the severity, but that actually strengthens my point about the COVID vaccine. The whole world was under a pandemic, but COVID has a relatively low mortality rate. Conversely, we had virtually no idea about the vaccine's mortality rate when it was forced on us. The medical groups were aligned, but they were aligned behind the wrong goal.
@BB84DWF 4mos4MO
Vaccines are very carefully manufactured and tested to minimize potential harm and maximize benefits and the actual disease they prevent is always much worse than the vaccine.
@Desmond-HawkConstitution 4mos4MO
@BB8378N4mos4MO
There has always been a mandate for children to enter the school system to have the vaccines up to date or else you can't attend to avoid the spread of any disease. We experienced it recently with COVID, once the vaccine became available the risk of getting the virus reduced significantly.
@Desmond-HawkConstitution 4mos4MO
Vaccine mandates are actually comparatively new in history, given that vaccines themselves are comparatively new. The numbers don't seem to indicate the the COVID vaccine helped to stop the spread. We had several waves of COVID come after they were released. There's also the concern that the vaccine itself is more harmful than getting COVID.
A counterargument is that vaccine mandates are only used when strong scientific evidence shows they are safe and help protect public health. Vaccines are tested carefully, and courts and health experts make sure the government cannot require unsafe vaccines. Mandates help prevent the spread of serious diseases and protect the community.
@Desmond-HawkConstitution 4mos4MO
@BD4WYBCRepublican 2mos2MO
The government should not be allowed to make vaccinations mandatory because it could compromise personal or religious beliefs. It's simply unjust to force it on people.
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@BD964552mos2MO
The question cannot be answered with a mere soundbite. This is an issue that cuts across many related societal components: accurate medical history, moneyed interests, politics, profound little-known but proven medical therapies (including phage therapy), and the all-pervasive and expanding interests and influence of big pharma. Once one digs deep into all these converging issues, it becomes clear that there are much, much better strategies than mandatory vaccination.
Certain situations shouldn't have to require vaccinations. For example, rural citizens who barely have contact with the general population should have a choice. I would hope that proper education would enable people to make wiser choices about vaccinations. ALL our country's problems can be alleviated with superior education.
@BBTGT3M4mos4MO
First, I do not agree with mandatory vaccinations, period. I am for and promote scientific advancement in the filed, but that does not mean I blindly trust the corporations over them products. I do agree that we need to increase the education about vaccines. Especially current research that is being done and the test that are being performed. That would also need to include education in what to look for in a study that validates it and give it credibility. If companies and businesses what to restrict access or employment, like some did during covid, fine. Although the higher ups of many of those companies did not follow the guidelines they imposed on everyone else.
@BBTG2STPeace and Freedom 4mos4MO
I agree, I dont think anyone should be forced to take vaccinations because every human is literally different. Years ago vaccinations didnt exist and there were natural healing practices and solutions. Every year vaccinations ¨adapt¨ to the virus being rebuilt and mixed with all different types of lab experiments. I dont believe our bodies were made to endure so many chemicals and medicines on a yearly basis.
@BBW8C58 4mos4MO
Mandatory Vaccinations will allow individuals to have a lower risk of contracting a disease that could have been prevented if they had been vaccinated previously. Though various people have various views on vaccines, they shouldn't be forced to give kids their vaccines.
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@BBWYVYMPeace and Freedom4mos4MO
Since the government hires God knows who to create and test these vaccines, and also is a government who has lied on multiple occasions about cures and treatment for things like cancer, mandatory vaccinations should not be passed. It should be people's choice if they want to trust the government or not.
Vaccinations should be a decision made by the person recieving the vaccine. Not everyone agrees they are needed. Some people have religious beliefs that are against them.
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@B7KPZT89mos9MO
Vaccinations are critical in keeping everyone healthy, not just a singular person. By rejecting vaccinations, that person will be endangering those who physically can't ever get vaccinated and already are at huge risk for catching the disease. Vaccines should be implemented, regardless of your religious beliefs, for the sake of the community, not the individual.
@B7BPM9L 9mos9MO
Forcing citizens to take anything, medicine or not is a breach of privacy!! Every American as shown in the constitution has a right to freedom. Many vaccines have shown too many negative side effects to be considered safe anymore. Research studies have been shown that certain vaccines containing mercury has spiked the defect of autism, and even taken away bodily functions, turning able-bodied kids into handicapped.
@B7GSWQ59mos9MO
Everyone should have the necessary vaccinations whether they want to or not because even if the unvaccinated person has no symptoms they put everyone else at risk for serious illness that could have been prevented.
@B8PW4ZT7mos7MO
Same kind of deal as what some people said about COVID.
"Wait...I haven't been sick, and I have no symptoms...so what's the purpose of getting the vaccine?"
"Ah, shut up and take the jab already"
So they do, and then months later, we see a bunch of people drop dead because of "unexplained causes".
(BTW, I'm not saying that the vaccine caused the death of these people...but "things that make you go 'hmmm"
@B7GYRDK9mos9MO
Nothing in the constitution ever gives you a right to privacy AND there are WAYYY more positive side effects to vaccines than negative
@B8PW4ZT7mos7MO
Hmm. I get it, but can you tell me what the "positive side effects" to the COVID vaccine were? Did it actually prevent you from getting sick? I think not, as I got COVID even after being vaccinated against it.
There are claims that the vaccine had certain substances in it that could change (and perhaps control) the cellular structure of one's body. Does that sound like a "positive side effect" to you?
Also, what do you tell the many parents who believe that faulty vaccines caused their children's autism? Although not scientifically proven, that's a valid concern...no?
@B8PW4ZT7mos7MO
Yet the Constitution does grant that you have a right to practice and hold any religious beliefs (within reason). If someone says, "hey wait...I can't do this, because my religion forbids it", are you really going to tell them "take it, or lose your job/educational options/other rights"?
"Well yeah, because it protects other people"
At what price?
(FYI: My home state of Connecticut currently has no religious exemption for vaccines. You either get vaccinated, or you lose any rights that you have)
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@BB6K29J 4mos4MO
You should never be forced to put anything into your body, especially with recent studies showing the effects vaccines can have on children, and America is a country based on freedom so you as an individual should be able to decide what you put in your own body.
@BB7R9SVPeace and Freedom4mos4MO
I do agree that personal freedom is important, but also vaccines aren't just personal choices. This affects other people like elderly, people who have weak immune system, or even newborns. Vaccines are heavily studied and monitored for safety, and serious side effects that are compared to the risk of the diseases they prevent.
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@BCQL8XN 3mos3MO
Parents should be able to choose whether or not their kids receive a vaccine. It's not like the government owns the kids.
@BCQVRV4 3mos3MO
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@BCTMHYV2mos2MO
I hate the way that people lost their jobs and livelihoods because they were given the choice to receive a new vaccine that had been proven to create many health problems in the future, or get fired from their job. It's taking away freedom of choice and agency, especially if there is a consequence that could take away their ways to make money.
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@9GWB7X8Republican 3yrs3Y
We have the right to our own body and if we are mandated to ge the vaccine then that free choice is being taken away.
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@BCPMSQH 3mos3MO
Mandates take away a person's personal freedoms and choices. People should be able to make their own choices pertaining to their bodies.
@BCTFJY2 2mos2MO
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@BCSD7Z52mos2MO
no i don't believe vaccination should be mandated because it should be someone's individual right to decide what goes inside their body and it should be the mother's choice to decide if her baby is getting vaccinations that could be potentially harmful to them. Honestly it is all a scam for big Pharma
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@BBXFN6Q 4mos4MO
I do NOT consent. God made the human body with a wonderful immune system that has served me well before and after the covid lockdowns. It is unconstitutional to force a vaccine on a citizen. The parent makes that decision for their child. All manner of toxins have turned up in the vaccine contents. I simply do not consent.
You don't have to consent to Vaccines, I do believe you should be able to choose, but at the very least stay heavily educated on the subject matter instead of spouting out ideas of it being toxins when it's just dead/weakened Viruses meant to train your body. If people still refuse to Vaccinate or get their kids vaccinated that should be their choice, but they should at the very least be well aware of the consequences.
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@B89PSLN 8mos8MO
I don’t think it’s constitutional to require vaccines, it should be my choice if I’d like it or not. Also, there has been several issues with the COVID vaccine that they mandated.
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Vaccines are proven to keep people safe from common diseases. Our ancestors died en masse to these diseases, and it would be a disservice to them and the countless hours that went into developing vaccines. It is an understated achievement of how incredible it is as a species that we were able to eradicate diseases. Not taking a vaccine does not just affect you, but everyone around you as well. If people want to deliberately put themselves, their children, their elderly loved ones, their neighbors, etc, in unnecessary danger, be my guest, but don't complain if and when something bad happ… Read more
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@BD42P29 2mos2MO
Each person should have sovereignty over their own body. Especially when pharmaceutical companies are given immunity against prosecution and over favors from government, making them irresponsible for their damages.
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@BB8Y8NRLibertarian 4mos4MO
When there is a possibility that a vaccine could have adverse effects on a human I think the answer should always be choice. There should always be the ability to choose when vaccines are involved.
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