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@B7LMR6F 9mos9MO
Did the dealer commit the crime? No. Did they know the crime was going to be committed? Probably not. If they is the case, then they are completely innocent and should not be held liable for someone else's crimes. If they knew the crime was going to happen they should be arrested as accomplice or accessory to the crime.
@9GKGKQ2 3yrs3Y
I would actually somewhat agree with this answer, but only to a certain extent. Dealers do have the responsibility of conducting background checks on the persons to whom they sell firearms, but there is no reasonable expectation that they can gain complete insight into the mind and mental state of their clients. As far as I am concerned, the dealer should only be liable to be sued if they either did not properly comply with background check laws/guidelines or if there is substantial evidence to show that the client (who used the guns to cause violence) was acting in a way that can be deemed suspicious, but the dealer did not take action or deny the sale.
@9GKJQCJ 3yrs3Y
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The people that sells guns but don't do a background check should be liability of gun violence because they did not check to see if they are unreliable with firearms.
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I neither agree nor disagree with this statement because people who have never done anything bad who buy guns can later use that gun for gun violence. This is something that would not show up on a background check but will in the future. But at the same time they should do a background check and if have used a gun for violence to not sell it to them.
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When someone sells someone else a knife and the buyer stabs another person with said knife, is the seller held liable? No. The knife was simply a tool in the process, a tool to cut food items, or to cut someone. It is up the user for it's purpose. Similarly, the gun is a tool. It is up to the person to pull the trigger.
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All dealers should run a background check and ensure that the customer is capable of handling and properly storing the gun as well as being mentally strong enough to not use it for the wrong things. If a customer doesn't comply with these things in any way, the person should not be able to purchase a firearm.
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Dealers have a very similar situation to the manufactures but dealers have the opportunity to do a background check, the only time a gun dealer should be sued is if it was found that the background check should have prevented an induvial from getting a gun but receive a gun anyways and used that gun for criminal intent.
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@9GXN3DS3yrs3Y
Dealers are not the issue. They are simply making a sale, using form systems that are (admittidly) out of date. the ATF 4473 form intrudes unreasonably on individuals stances and not their ability to be able to handle a firearm. There should be a general safety section added regarding things like "treat every weapon as if its loaded" and "never point at something you arent willing to kill, maim, or destroy"
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If you get hit by a car it is the fault of the operator, not the manufacturer or the dealer who sold you the car. Gun dealers are already required to perform a background check, if it comes up clean there is no reason to not be granted a firearm. It is not the fault of the dealer who was operating legally that a crime was committed with a product they sold.
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Should the person fulfill all the requirements along with passing all the tests, then the dealer should never be held responsible. Similarly to how car dealers aren't responsible for those who crash their vehicles once purchased. It is as if you buy a house, it burns down, and expect the previous owner to pay for it.
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The best counterargument is that dealer-only liability still misplaces responsibility unless the dealer actually acted illegally or negligently.
Holding dealers broadly liable for crimes committed with guns they legally sold risks punishing lawful behavior rather than misconduct. Dealers already operate under strict federal and state regulations, including background checks, recordkeeping, and compliance audits. When a dealer follows all required laws, the criminal act that occurs later is an independent decision made by another person, breaking the chain of responsibility. Expanding liability… Read more
A strong counterargument is that dealer-only liability risks punishing compliance rather than preventing wrongdoing. Federal firearms dealers are already among the most heavily regulated businesses in the country, required to conduct background checks, maintain detailed records, and submit to inspections. When dealers follow the law, holding them liable for crimes committed later by third parties shifts blame away from the individual offender and discourages lawful businesses from operating at all.
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Did the dealer commit the crime? No. Did they know the crime was going to be committed? no. If they is the case, then they are completely innocent and should not be held liable for someone else's crimes. If they knew the crime was going to happen they should be arrested as accomplice or accessory to the crime.
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I would actually somewhat agree with this answer, but only to a certain extent. Dealers do have the responsibility of conducting background checks on the persons to whom they sell firearms, but there is no reasonable expectation that they can gain complete insight into the mind and mental state of their clients. As far as I am concerned, the dealer should only be liable to be sued if they either did not properly comply with background check laws/guidelines or if there is substantial evidence to show that the client (who used the guns to cause violence) was acting in a way that can be deemed suspicious, but the dealer did not take action or deny the sale.
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