What is your stance on abortion?
Pro-life, but allow in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother or child
If a woman has had consensual sex, it is extremely unethical to have an abortion unless there is the possibility of danger to the mother or child. Deciding to have a child is not a light-hearted decision where a woman can just change her mind about it once the pregnancy has already begun. Allowing abortions for cases not involving rape, incest, or danger to the mother or child will allow for woman to have sex, get pregnant, get an abortion, then repeat the process all over again and live an indecent lifestyle like that. Pro-choice supporters will say that women should have bodily autonomy, but it was their bodily autonomy that let them get into that situation where they had sex and got pregnant. Pro-choice supporters might also say that government funded abortion services are crucial to give abortions to victims of rape who became pregnant, but when it comes to rape, our focus should be to find a way to stop rape completely rather than to help the few rape victims who become pregnant.
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At the end of the day, women should be able to make decisions about their bodies themselves. Whether you agree or not, their business does not concern anyone but herself. Sex goes both ways, it is a man that impregnates a woman; if woman are heavily criticized for wanting abortions after reckless behavior the same criticism should be applied to equally reckless men who were irresponsible enough to not have used protection. Pro-life supporters will argue that it is cruel to end a pregnancy, but it is far more cruel to subject a child to a life where they are unwanted. Pro-life supporters may… Read more
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 4mos4MO
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I completely agree with you that it is unacceptable for only the woman to be blamed for not using proper precautions to avoid pregnancy; however, the woman knows her capability and willingness to raise a child better than the man, and her consent to have sex without precautions is the final and most significant part of the interaction that will cause an unplanned pregnancy. Regarding your statistic about foster care, while there are roughly up to 400,000 children in the foster care system, many of those children live in foster family homes, which generally include volunteering traditional par… Read more
@BBBJFZV 4mos4MO
What women choose to do with their body should be purely their choice. If they choose to have sex, they should be allowed to have sex. I think that it is worse to bring a child into the world with a mother that cannot provide, giving that child a less-than-satisfactory life, than aborting the fetus before they are born. Additionally, men have sex as well, and do not reap any of the consequences because they are not the ones carrying the child. It is unfair to label women as irresponsible for having sex, when men do just the same, but do not have to deal with what comes after. People who say… Read more
@BB8KWN84mos4MO
It is completely the woman's choice to have an abortion or not. Regardless of harm to the mother or child it is the woman's choice to do with her body. It does not affect anyone but the mother who chooses to have an abortion. Also, the access to reproductive healthcare will help limit the population and the increased use of resources in our country.
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@B8T9VPV 7mos7MO
It is almost impossible to stop rape entirely and either way, abortion is healthcare. Whether the woman is raped or not, she should have complete access to an abortion. A woman living an "Indecent lifestyle" is completely subjective, and even if she was, that would be her choice. If it does not hurt another living person, it should not matter to you. Abortion should be illegal after a certain amount of weeks, once the fetus has developed beyond a clump of cells. Prior to that deadline, it should be absolutely unacceptable for someone to deny a woman of this right.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 5mos5MO
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Although it would be impossible to completely stop sexual violence, it can be significantly reduced through proper sexual education in public schools and community-led informative programs. Defending indecency in our country through the argument that people have personal freedom rejects what would truly be best for society and blindly follows ideology. What the "clump of cells" logic fails to address is that every organism is a clump of cells, and fetuses are clumps of cells with cohesive systems, just like any other organism.
@B8TLHC57mos7MO
The minute that you begin to set limitations and restrictions on womens healthcare is when America no longer becomes the land of the free. While trying to get rid of rape entirely is a very good and progressive goal to have however saying that a woman should have to go through the pregnancy is insanity. A woman should be allowed to do what she wants with her body and not be judged.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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I am not saying that a woman should absolutely have to go through a pregnancy, I said that if a woman is a victim of rape or incest, or if there is a risk of danger to the mother or a child, I believe that that woman should be allowed to get an abortion. I only said that I believe in restricting abortions for women who are not at risk of danger or whose fetuses are not at risk of danger and who consensually had sex. The freedom of deciding whether or not to have a child should come in the form of deciding to have sex and abstaining if necessary, not getting an abortion once the fetus has already started developing. A woman should be allowed to do what she wants with her body, but not to the extent that she can kill her fetus who has already started developing.
@B8PVKM77mos7MO
It’s not anyone’s business what someone else does with their body. Rape is not the only a reason a woman would elect to get an abortion. There are possible medical complications for the mother and future child. The mother could be in poverty and unable to properly take care of a child. And finally, the woman could just not want to have a child. Why we would we want to force someone into having a child if our end goal is to give those children a good life? A child that is unwanted will be miserable, neglected, abused, etc. Pro-life people need to focus more on supporting the children that actually are alive than forcing people into having children that they simply don’t want.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican7mos7MO
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In my comment, I said that if there is danger to the mother or child, an abortion is ethical. If the mother would be unable to sustain a child, she should not be trying to have a child in the first place. If the woman does not want a child, she should not be trying to have a child. By restricting abortion, we are not forcing someone into having a child as you mentioned because it was the woman's decision to try to have a child. Also, during sex, there are precautions to be taken if the participants do not want to have a child. A woman should not have to try to have a child if she does not want a child.
@B9Y4DR35mos5MO
The pregnant woman has the choice of what to do with the pregnancy. No one else has a say in the matter.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 4mos4MO
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The pregnant woman had the chance to make a choice when deciding to have sex and deciding to not use proper precautions. It is unfair to give a pregnant woman another chance after having already given her two chances while taking away the right to life from a fetus.
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@B8PYGH87mos7MO
Abortion is healthcare, and women should have full control on their body instead of a fetus that is not even breating yet.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Women should have control over their own body, but if they had consensual sex in an attempt to have a child, they are not justified in killing their unborn child because they changed their mind. Your comment is proposing the statement that a woman's decision to not have a child after intentionally getting pregnant is greater than the life of an unborn child, and your main justification for this is that fetus can not breathe yet. However, fetuses do have some level of consciousness. Although this consciousness is very basic, uses very broad stimuli, and is not close to that of a born per… Read more
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Women should have control over their own body, but if they had consensual sex in an attempt to have a child, they are not justified in killing their unborn child because they changed their mind. Your comment is proposing the statement that a woman's decision to not have a child after intentionally getting pregnant is greater than the life of an unborn child, and your main justification for this is that fetus can not breathe yet. However, fetuses do have some level of consciousness. Although this consciousness is very basic, uses very broad stimuli, and is not close to that of a born per… Read more
@B8XHTHF 7mos7MO
It doesn't matter how the woman got pregnant-whether it was rape, incest, or detrimental to a woman's life-they should be able to have an abortion no matter what. It is the woman's choice and it shouldn't matter the reasoning behind it. If a woman doesn't want a baby, she should be allowed to choose what her heart desires. Sex is a human desire and completely normal, women shouldn't be shamed for having it and shouldn't be shamed for choosing to abort a fetus. We should find a way to stop rape, but it is unfair to overlook the victims who became pregnant. Whether a woman is a victim or just wanted to have sex, it is her body at the end and she should be allowed to choose her future.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 5mos5MO
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It is completely absurd that leftists abandon objective biological facts regarding sex but continue to harbor the belief that sexual desires cannot be controlled. Women who are unable to control their sexual desires or even bother to use contraceptives despite being fully aware that they do not want children need to be dealt with and eventually rooted out of our society through abstinence programs.
@B8Q8X5Y7mos7MO
i disagree, this is basically saying that women are getting abortions for fun, i believe that the right to privacy that everyone should have, but when a women gets pregnant and the pregnancy is not a result of rape, incest etc. and they chose to get an abortions they probably can not emotionally or financially support that child, another example could be having the child could also pose a threat to the women's life . i think a women should have a child when she is ready and capable even if a accidental pregnancy comes and she wants to have a abortion its ultimately her decision and choice in the matter, and i think that trying to be taken away from women is inhumane.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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I am not saying that women are getting abortions for fun, I am saying that women who cannot sustain a child should be careful not to get pregnant, and if a woman decides to have a child despite her inability to sustain one, then it is her responsibility that she decided to undertake when she had sex. If our government decides to fund abortions for everyone no matter the cause, there definitely will be some women who will unfortunately try to abuse the system and get pregnant then get an abortion rather than trying to abstain. I am not saying that this small group represents all women, because… Read more
@BBLQGQD4mos4MO
There is a lot of rape cases in the us and they keep rising. The cases of rape that were reported last year was estimated to be 423,020, that's almost half a million people and that's saying a lot considering that only 33% of victims report their sexual abuse, nearly 65,000 of those victims became pregnant and with the new abortion bans most of them could not get abortions and were forced to carry the baby to full term even if they aren't financially stable or even ready to have a child.
@B8QBHKP7mos7MO
Either way, a woman should not be denied an abortion. Lots of instances of even worse situations happening could occur. Banning them is basically another way of saying "They don't deserve to have a choice! It's their fault!" which is extremely wrong and gives you a bad look. Whoever made this argument really needs to check their mortals because this is disgusting.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 4mos4MO
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I don't want to be rude, but a woman requesting an abortion already had the chance to back out from the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy when she decided to have sex and when she decided to not use proper precautions. On the other hand, her fetus has not been given any chances and is having its right to life wrongfully stripped away from it.
@B8PZ2KZ7mos7MO
If a woman made the decision to have sex, she deserves the decision whether to keep a child or not, it's simple logic. The technology today is better than ever which is why the option is good.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Your "simple logic" is totally flawed. A fetus is not an object that can be kept or discarded. A fetus is a life in development, just like a child. Just because we have the technology to provide abortions does not mean we should.
@BB2LJJT5mos5MO
If it was consensual, it is still a woman's body and choice. If she doesn't want to go through 9 months of labor and pain then that is her choice. If its earlier on then the baby isn't harm let alone alive. Let people choose what they want to do. Others who cant have a baby or is trying to have a say over someone else's body shouldn't be talking. Its not your body and you dont understand so don't say anything.
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@B9XZK5L5mos5MO
The woman can have certain external factors that make having and raising a child incredibly difficult. If the parent can't provide the child with a good life and can endanger them, they should not give their child that life. If people are so anti-abortion, why don't they adopt kids that are put up for adoption after being born?
@B8PXXT87mos7MO
I agree but also disagree with this. I do support abortion for those who are a victim of sexual assault because that is completely out of their control. Especially if the victim is als o a child their self. Abortion for those who consensually have sex should be strictly banned because of the fact that those who had sexual intercourse knew the consequences.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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“Abortion for those who consensually have sex should be strictly banned”
I agree with most of your comment, but I respectfully disagree with the idea of a strict ban on abortion for those who have had consensual sex. I definitely agree with a severe restriction, but I feel like if a woman who consensually had sex but was put into a situation of harm, or whose child was put into a situation of harm because of some unforeseen medical complications, she should be allowed to have an abortion. I feel like it is wrong to put a woman into a situation where she tries having a child, but she ends up in a situation where her or her child is in danger just because she had the pure intention of having a child. I agree that women who attempt to have a child should be aware of these consequences of harm, but if we have the means to stop this harm, we should.
@BB2BTBG 5mos5MO
You're completely right, we should find a way to stop rape, but a rapist is not going to stop. They will just continue and continue. Being pro-choice doesn't mean that I believe it is right to kill babies; being pro-choice means I believe that every woman has the right to decide whether or not she wants to have a fetus growing in her belly. Being pro-choice gives that right to the soon-to-be mother, whether she wants to keep or abort that fetus; that is her choice.
@B8YTFV56mos6MO
I think people should stop deciding for others whether an abortion is okay or not. It is the woman's choice, not anybody else's. Yes, that woman could have made a bad decision and ended up pregnant, but at the end of the day, it is her decision to have that child or not. If a man kept getting girls pregnant, should we be able to choose if he can keep his testicles or have them cut off? No. So we shouldn't choose for the women when that is not other people's business.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 4mos4MO
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The idea that we as a society cannot choose what this woman does with fetus is too deeply grounded in ideologies relating to personal liberty and ignores the fact that it is our responsibility as members of this society to uphold order, virtue, and accountability.
@BB732GS 4mos4MO
@B8SK7C77mos7MO
As long as the abortion is completed early in the pregnancy before there is an actual heartbeat that is present they should be allowed to do it
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 5mos5MO
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The idea that a beating heart is the only criterion for human life disregards what is biologically true.
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@B8Q8B5D7mos7MO
Some decisions are dumb or not made in the right state of mind, and women change their minds after meaning that sometimes abortion is necessary.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 4mos4MO
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That is exactly why we need to take funding away from abortion programs and put them towards abstinence programs that prevent these dumb decisions.
@BB3RH6H 5mos5MO
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If a woman gets pregnant, that is her choice, but if the baby is putting the mother in danger or the baby is in danger itself or not alive in the womb, then it becomes the mother's choice
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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That is what I said in my first comment. Sorry if you didn't notice that initially, I know that most of my comment was about rape victims.
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It is a slippery slope; if a woman has consensual sex and is pregnant, there could be several things that might have happened. Sometimes birth control can fail, and even though there is always a small chance that a person could get pregnant regardless of whether they have birth control or not, I do not think that they should be forced to have a baby, especially if they do not want one. Generally speaking, there will always be someone who abuses a system given to them, but it's worth it if even one person who truly needs it can access it.
@B8VM6PR7mos7MO
There is no sure fire way to prevent rape in the country and thinking that's possible is silly. Many people that get raped or assaulted either don't know for sure if that's what happened or they don't want to admit to themself or others that it happened. This would also create more people lying saying they got raped to gain an abortion when they actually didn't potentially leading to an arrest of an innocent man.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 6mos6MO
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There is definitely no way to prevent absolutely all rape in the country, but there are ways to significantly cut down rape. America's public schools do not properly address animalistic sexual desires and behaviors during sex education and fail to react proactively and effectively to sexual assault within schools. These particular problems would be solved by large but not total decentralization and privatization of the education sector so that children get a proper sex education and have open communication with trusted adults, especially in less wealthy communities where sexual violence… Read more
A woman should be bale to choose if she wants a child or not there are so many children in foster care that need to be adopted why add more
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Women should have the choice of whether or not they want a child, but that choice should be made before sex, not when the fetus has already started developing. Your comment sounds like you think that children are a burden rather than a gift and the future of society. By denying a woman an abortion, nobody is going to foster care; your comment is factually incorrect.
@B9Z8SG75mos5MO
The woman may not have meant to get pregnant. The woman may have used every single form of protection possible, and still something happened. What would happen if the woman had not been pregnant because it was life-threatening for her and the baby? No matter what the situation is, a woman should never be subjected to judgment or control based on her own body. Regarding rape, while it is imperative to stop it, realistically and unfortunately, that will never happen. It is important we take measures to do our best to limit rape but it is also important to let a woman decide what she wants to do with her body.
@B9VZKQ55mos5MO
If women are to be held to this standard, men should also. Men have an out (their own form of abortion) by just leaving since they aren't physically having this child. Women could rightfully choose to not have a baby, and shouldn't be held to a stereotype and said they will have many other abortions. A woman and man can have the most protected sex and still get pregnant.
@B8V3DYRWomen’s Equality7mos7MO
I believe your body, your choice. A fetus in the womb is a developing human who has no conscience and is therefore not human.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 5mos5MO
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Children are developing humans, but they are still considered people because they are humans. The only reason that some people think that fetuses are not people are because you cannot see a fetus the way you can see an infant, which is totally flawed logic because fetuses can and do respond to external stimuli. In addition, women have the choice not to have a child by choosing whether or not to have sex.
@B8PWHR47mos7MO
Ethical is subjective. What is ethical? Who are you to decide if a woman wants to have a child or not?
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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“Who are you to decide if a woman wants to have a child or not?”
I am not deciding if a woman wants to have a child. I am saying that if the woman had consensual sex without precautions to prevent pregnancy, then her being pregnant is her responsibility, and in my opinion, she is not justified in killing her unborn child because she does not want to carry that responsibility.
@B8S6SST7mos7MO
bro its a clump of cells do you remember anything from when you were in the womb? they aren't conscious.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Do you remember anything from when you were an infant? You might as well say that it is justified to kill a baby. In addition, born humans are just as much of a clump of cells as fetuses are. You might follow up by saying that the clump of cells that exists as a born human actually has organic functions that prove life, but the same is true for a fetus, because a fetus has organic functions that allow it to receive oxygen, receive nutrients, grow and develop body parts, and react to sensory stimuli, just like anyone who has been born. My sources for the claim that fetuses have consciousness and can feel pain are listed below.Read moreThe emergence of human consciousness: from fetal to neonatal life - PubMedhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19092726/Physiology, Fetal Circulationhttps:ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539710/
Not being prepared to have a baby is a great excuse for abortion. If you know you aren't In a place in life where you can financially raise a child, an abortion is the answer.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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If a woman is not prepared to have a child, she should not be trying to have a child. There are precautions during sex that should be taken to prevent pregnancy. Once a woman has decided to carry the responsibility of a child, she is not justified in killing her unborn child because she does not want to carry that responsibility.
@B8TKCLQ7mos7MO
I think both reducing the amount of rape victims is much less sustainable than the ability to allow women to get abortion if needed.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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This comment makes it sound like you think that the only real problem with rape is that women are getting pregnant because of rape, and not that rape in and of itself is completely wrong. We should not be afraid to try to reduce rape just because it is a massive goal. If we don't even try to make small steps towards stopping rape because we do not think that it is sustainable to attempt to fulfill such a goal, we will never make positive progress past the current state of society. I agree that abortions for rape victims should definitely be legal and funded by the government, but if we… Read more
@B8S9HK97mos7MO
I disagree because this is ignorant and I feel like you should always have the choice weather you want a baby or not, imagine if it was your wife or your sister.
@B8PC6ZTRepublican 7mos7MO
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Women should have a choice of whether or not they want a child, but that choice should be made before sex rather than after the fetus has already started developing. Allowing abortions for all pregnant women no matter the cause will cause many fetuses to be unnecessarily killed because of abortions when women can instead try to abstain from sex if they are not in the position to have a child. If it was my wife or sister who consensually had sex and got pregnant, I would urge her not to get an abortion unless she is in danger due to the pregnancy.
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The woman could be in a financial situation that completely restricts her ability to raise a baby, let alone the father who is seemingly left out of the argument. Additionally both parties involved could not be fit to be parents if thats because of age or preference and that completely their own decision. To force a baby on such people doesn't only affect them but most importantly the baby brought into such an unfavorable life.
@B8VGN847mos7MO
Everyone has their own views just because you think its "unethical" doesn't mean she think that way and isn't going to stop her from getting one. If she is not financially ready for one she doesn't need to have one because the baby will grow up in poverty seeing a lot of crazy things might not get the proper education and do illegal things for money.
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